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Old 04-07-2005, 05:07 PM   #1
Hagen Seibert
Dojo: Kamai
Location: Freiburg
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 124


I found J. Krishnamurtiīs ideas about violence quite interesting match to the ideals of Aikido.

I am searching for the original text of one of his books which is not available to me.
The name of the book is: "Freedom from the Known"
The chapterīs title is "Violence"

In my foreign edition the relevant text is on Page 55,57,58 in a book of 120 pages and should read something like this (which is my translation back into English)

"To be beyond violence, I must not surpress it, not deny it, must not say: ‘Itīs a part of me and thatīs it.' Or ‘I reject it."….. Stop to condem it or to justify it!"

"To be free themselves from violent behaviour, some people have taken up a concept, an ideal, which they call non-violence, and they believe through this ideal of non-violence as a contradiction to violence they would be able to free themselves from the fact of violence -- but they canīt ! We have had ideals without number, every holy book is full of them, yet we are still violent. ….. Why donīt we examine violence itself and forget the word completely ?"

"When you look at it and explore the notion to the last depth, it dissolves. But when you say: ‘I mustnīt hate, my heart must be full of love' then you are living in a treacherous world with double measurements."

Does anyone have this book and would you be willing to scan ot retype it ? Thanks for your help.
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