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The obi used in koryu (classical Japanese martial art) is very different from the obi used in gendai arts like judo, aikido and karate.
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Ron,
I am fully aware that Obi's are different. I made no reference to that.
Lets stick with the original argument, which I will do my best
to provide some kind of historical reference, as you had requested. OK?
I do read alot, so please lets not insult each other or be condescending, it's really not appropriate.
The original argument was in reference to washing the Obi.
Perhaps in your practice, it is acceptable. Whereas in mine, it is not and for several reasons which have been passed down from Sensei to student many times over.
Give me a couple of days and I will get back to you with something tangible.
Thanks.
Respectfully,
Natasha