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Graham Jenkins wrote:
... - i.e., in ikkyo, you would, in jujutsu, break the arm/elbow - but in aikido, you don't.[
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Grin:
I heard aikido teachers say you won't try to break an arm, because it is more difficult then to use it to controll the attacker.
An I heard teachers of yawara say the same.
But more important to me:
When beginners start to learn ikkyo, they are told as uke always to bend the arm a little bit. Because otherwise the ellbow may be damaged or even break ... Hm.
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And then there are all the techniques which imply that you are holding a sword when you execute them - ruling out the possibility of atemi.
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I don't know even one technique which is executed - in our way to practice - the way you describe?
Sounds if your hands are "fixed" like if they really had to hold a sword?
We always try to be free and have all possibilities to use our hands, feet, ... everything.
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And isn't reliance on atemi to break the balance not what you aim for in aikido?
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I learned: First technique is atemi. To the face or throat. If this is enough, it's finished. (So for this you have to learn atemi as a technique in itself.)
If the attacker deals with this, techniques evolve.
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- I thought you harmonised with someone, then effected kuzushi through that - rather than hitting them.
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Is there any atemi nage in your aikido? Throwing the partner by using atemi?
What about the atemi to the neck in kaiten nage?
The atemi to the side in shiho nage?
They are a "surplus" and are not needed to apply kuzushi. They follow it.
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And if aikido was all about using strikes to disable someone, wouldn't it be called karate?
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karate, judo, aikido and most other arts have strikes.
And one reason for not calling it karate is that the (technical) way of atemi in aikido or other traditional japanese arts seems to differ from the way of karate.
puh, we don't do a hard or "combative" or very martial style of aikido. On the contrary.
But nevertheless my thinking of atemi seems different from yours.