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Old 08-17-2006, 08:32 AM   #38
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Re: Kokyu Nage techniques do they work?

Hi Neil, sorry I'm late on this post.
I'm not sure if you include Sokumen Irimi Nage as kokyu nage (side entering irimi nage)?

Anyway, we were doing some koshi nage a while ago (onto big soft mats) and I noticed it was far easier with less hip and more timing. I think kokyu-nage is the same in that the idea is to develop timing and coordination with uke. It can seem very artificial when uke is attacking again and again, but they can be effective if you get the timing correct and its not expected (I see this as a potential problem in aikido - we need to be able to attack hard as well, otherwise once you've thrown one person any attackers quickly get clued in to what you are doing and are more wary).

Sokumen irimi-nage is definately effective - I remember wrestling around with a ju-jitsu friend who tried to do a hip throw, and the blending with the movement just put me directly into sokumen irimi nage in a very powerful way.

Ian

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