I was not aware of the rules that framed this discussion.
My facts are irrelevant and the facts that back you up are relevant.
Well in that case you win.
That pretty much sums it up, David. Though I'm sure Toby is not interested in "winning". It's hardly winning if, at noon, someone tells you it's midnight and you say, "No, it's noon."
You should just use relevant facts. Or even "facts" at all would be a good start.