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Old 08-15-2013, 10:32 AM   #34
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Re: China and the Methods that Drive IP & Aiki

Christopher Li wrote: View Post
When did Sagawa study Chinese arts?
Hmm. I'll see if I can track down where I got that idea from. I thought I read that in one of your blogs, the guy from the Sagawa style who trained with the guy who drew the manga...? Well obviously not or you wouldn't be asking me where I heard that Sagawa had researched chinese martial arts.

Christopher Li wrote: View Post
I suppose that it would depend on what you'd call "butterfly effects". Personally, I would say that the influence is much to pervasive and clear to be characterized that lightly.
If the influence is pervasive and clear, that means it is obvious that Ueshiba trained with teachers of Chinese arts quite a bit and there is abundant evidence of this. It could simply be that there is a resemblance between what you believe Ueshiba was doing and what you know of Chinese martial arts. A resemblance could be explained by other things than influence.

Christopher Li wrote: View Post
Actually, there are some good stories about Takeda (but not from where you'd expect) - I may get to that some time...
That's tantalizing.
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