Jonathan

I knew a fellow who got a broken forearm bone from dai-yonkyo. He wasn't reacting at all to the yonkyo pressure being applied to him until his bone made a very brief, soft, crunching sound. At the time, he didn't suffer much pain and continued to practice. Next day, though, he showed up to class in a cast. Pain can be an odd thing sometimes. The serious stuff can be quite painless at first.

And on that light and happy thought I shall end my comments.

Cheers!