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Chris Hein wrote:
Heres the part you left off; didn't read?
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Chris Hein wrote:
Seems that Shioda is saying that both are simply components of Aiki, that both are just parts and neither is the whole enchilada.
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Mark Murray wrote:
Shuchu Ryoku, and Kokyu Ryoku are sub components of aiki.
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I don't understand how that's opposed to what I said.
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Chris Hein wrote:
From reading Shioda, he calls what I said was Aiki, Kokyu-ryoku.
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Might just be me misreading what you posted... But, you wrote that you thought Shioda's Kokyu-ryoku= your view of aiki. I took your post that your view was
Kokyu-ryoku=aiki
and that Kokyu-ryoku/aiki=Chushin Ryoku + Shuchu Ryoku.
While my view is
aiki = Chushin Ryoku + Shuchu Ryoku + Kokyu Ryoku + opposite body + spirals + etc.
Quite a difference there.
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Chris Hein wrote:
How are you using the word internal? What do you mean by it?
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That's where we (Aikiweb Community) have gone round and round about aiki and internal. We (both sides) have even tried to use video. I think at this point, the IHTBF applies. One other option is that if you (Aikiweb Community) can't get hands-on, then perhaps someone you know has done so?
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Chris Hein wrote:
I don't understand how that's opposed to what I said.
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Hopefully, I clarified things.