DH

Just thougt I'd add that I don't pretend to know what other folk are doing by things they write on the internet. I've had a belly full of internet experts and ranked guys who can't do...what they say they can do.
Folks have met Mike, met Rob and met me. No one...not one. has reported back that we are huff and puff. So while we may have distinctly different approaches ...I've no idea...we may have similar results.
Mike has this idea that it is premissed off of the same basics and it builds from there. He may be right.
I think his idea of the one jin...and I had no idea what the heck HE was talking about last year....is correct. In functional body use it is Aiki-age. Though if you don't know what to do with that-you can end up playing Hiriki games- through wrist grabbing, till the cows come home and you won't get far.

Cheers
Dan