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First off, I am a very nice guy. Also, my whole reason for sticking around is that no one has been willing to admit that aikido has limitations. All martial arts have their strengths and weaknesses, but the majority of people who have answered this thread seem to not be able to accept that fact and still think that Aikido is the ultimate martial art, no one has been able to step back and really take a look at how aikido is practiced and it's relationship to real altercations........
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Absolutely no one has said or appeared to say this, therefore you will never get the answer you seek, if in fact you actually want an answer.
This thread has the earmarks of Troll like intentions and it's time for Jun to close it in my humble opinion.