This is an interesting discussion. In a different thread I read Jun's statement on feeling that uke and nage are one. This got me thinking of an experience I had that seems to connect to this discussion.
Some people find this 'no topic' very frustrating. One of these people questioned me on my thoughts on martial arts. I described learning that uke and nage 'were not different', and I could not identify where nage ended and I began, that technique had become not only effortless, but joyous and life itself. This person laughed, labeled my philosophy as one of the buddhisms and proceeded to chop down the fragments of thought he had labelled my description of my learning with.
I never studied Buddhism. I grew up Catholic, and studied only judo's physical elements. From where did I learn what I had? I always said it was 'just judo'.
Now I say, "gosh i was good at judo - hand me the aspirin and I'll try that tenkan thing again!!"
dave