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Old 07-24-2003, 06:08 AM   #20
Ghost Fox
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Hi Drew
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Drew Ames (jxa127) wrote:
Damion,

A sound justification for killing somebody might be self defense, or protecting another person from immediate harm or death.

-Drew
Wasn't the man in the basket hat defending himself from the theif, and futher more by killing him wasn't he defending the people of the land against a theif.
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Drew Ames (jxa127) wrote:
Legality is very important, and (in aggregate) tends to help provide justice. Neither has much of anything to do with destiny. But how can anyone know their own, or somebody else's, destiny?

-Drew
The man in the basket hat knew the destiny of the thief he cut down.
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Drew Ames (jxa127) wrote:
Killing the body to save the spirit is a dangerous proposition simply because we can never know if the spirit is saved.

-Drew
Agreed. This is the problem with fanaticism and too narrow a world view.
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Drew Ames (jxa127) wrote:
Governments make decisions of life or death as a basic compromise necessary for dealing with violent, deviant behavior. Lack of such institutions make any form of society difficult to maintain. That is, any society must figure out some way of dealing with its deviants. Many, in fact, do not put people to death. But there is an ethical and moral difference between the citizens of a society (or their representatives) administering justice and a lone person taking that responsibility on himself without the permission of that society.

-Drew
We must remember in what era and place this story takes place, and adjust our perceptions and logic structure accordingly. This is the problem with using the morales of one time to judge the actions of another time. As society and ideas change and evolve/de-evolve over time the morales must also change with the time. The spirit of a time is only applicable to the time in which it was created; it is up to the future to preserve what was valuable from that time, and adapt it to the spirit of the future.

All in all it was a cool story, about the resposibility and burden of teaching and having the spirit to cut through the illusions that clouds a situation.

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