Thread: Caught on tape?
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Old 05-17-2006, 07:33 PM   #8
George S. Ledyard
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Re: Caught on tape?

Maumote Chami wrote:
That's it!? Only a failed Ikkyo caught on tape? and nothing else?

No sankyos, no kote gaeshis, no otoshi's ... come on! I tried to search youtube but I have a slow connection and so far no luck.

Law enforcement aikidokas ... come on! don't u have any arrests riot tapes etc.?
The number of people in law enforcement who have any degree of skill with Aikido techniques is quite small. The techniques commonly used in law enforcement as takedowns would be the two hand hair hold, the straight arm bar takedown and the back hand cross face takedown.

The straight arm bar takedown is derived from ikkyo but as taught by the majority of the folks in Defensive tactics, it won't work worth a damn. The standard LE version requires superior size and strength to even hope to pull it off (or a very drunk subject).

The back hand cross face takedown would be a kind of iriminage for most Aikido folks. Once again, as taught in most LE classes, it is only slightly more effective than the straight arm bar.

The technique which most cops can actually do is the two hand hair hold takedown but now that very short cropped hair is back in style, many cannot do the version which does not require the subject to have long hair.

Aikido, while having many techniques which could be adapted for use by law enforcement personnel, isn't very useful for most police as they simply won't train enough to acquire real skill at doing them. The average officer has under fifty hours of defensive tactics training when he hits the streets and after that he receives an average of two eight hour sessions a year for refresher, This training covers all areas of defensive tactics including OC spray, Taser, baton , etc. So the actual time spent on low level force empty hand technique is so low that it's really just "feel good" training which has little or no actual benefit.

There are, of course. some individuals who train on their own. They are apt to be fairly effective in their understanding of applied technique due to being able to practice on subjects with some regularity (assuming they work in a rough area). Corrections officers are apt to be the best at empty hand technique as they do not carry weapons and have to rely solely on their empty hand skills.

Still, the numbers of folks who take the initiative to acquire skill on their own time and on their own dime is so small that you have a very small chance of seeing the action caught on video or during the filming of COPS.

Last edited by George S. Ledyard : 05-17-2006 at 07:35 PM.

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