And I believe that only with insane amounts of IS/IT prewar aikido was something... and no amount of IP/IS is going to make budoka from dancers. No disrespect for real dancers intended. And yes, technically pre and post war aikido look almost the same, but the practitioners mindset is different: young guys at militaristic imperial Japan are not post 60's counterculture western petty bourgeoises fascinated by the exotic East. This makes great difference.