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Old 02-01-2005, 11:12 AM   #9
George S. Ledyard
 
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Re: New Feature: AikiWeb AikiWiki!

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Justin Couch wrote:
Jo, your thoughts on CAA v Aikikai are, unfortunately, not universal. The reason I brought the issue up is

1) When I read through the Wiki yesterday, some pages were making the distinction between Aikikai and CAA.
2) Legally speaking CAA is not a member of the Aikikai organisation here in the USA. Separate entities and they don't use the same grading structures so they're not directly equivalent.

There is still somewhat interesting political things going on. I've been corrected in a CAA dojo for calling them Aikikai. They may be registered directly with Hombu dojo, and thus under Aikikai World HQ, but there are a number of people that are quite touchy about that being directly applied to the day to day operations. If these people saw the Aikikai label applied to say Frank Doran Shihan above, they would be more than a little offended.

Wikis can be an interesting place, but they tend to be fraught with a lot of political dangers. This can get really nasty when two competing interests don't agree on terminology or labelling. A rather nasty game of pong develops as each tries to erase the other's changes to it. Better to try to sort out out here the expectations before it arrives on the Wiki.
This is all just political BS dating from the days in which the USAF was the only organization in the United States which was recognized through the Aikikai in Tokyo. When it became apparent that they were in danger of losing control of Aikido here in the States because there were more people in organizations outisde the USAF than in there was a big rapprochment and it was ok for organization like the ASU under Saotome Sensei and the California folks under Doran and Nadeau Senseis to affiliate through Japan directly.

Some folks from the old days still like to pretend that the USAF is the real representative of the Aikikai Hinbu Dojo even though we are all suposed to be one big happy family. This comes up when questions about the International Organization arise because the IAF still will only recognize one organization per country, a totally out of date hold over from the early days. But despite the inability to be in the IAF these organizations are equally associated under the Aikikai and in theory have the same relationship with the current Doshu.

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