Kevin Wilbanks

I have both the 12 duck and 8.5 twill tops from Bu Jin, but only the light pants. I definitely like the 8.5 better. It's more relaxing to wear, and it won't give anyone rug burns on their face from irimi nage. I don't see the clingy-ness as an issue due to the coolmax liner.

Before I bought Bu Jin with the liners, I preferred the heavier duck type made by JK (or J&K?) because the stiffness kept them from becoming like wet t-shirts. For anyone on a limited budget, I would recommend the cheaper duck type - you can buy more of them, so you can rotate in more fresh ones, and smell better.

It's all personal preference though. Some people like to wear heavy judo gis with t-shirts underneath, which seems crazy to me. I also can't stand a heavy, thick hakama. I go with the lightest material on those as well... but some people love those super heavy ones which seem like something suitable for an arctic expedition to me.