not a serious student meself. i used to go as much as i can, to as many seminars outside of my organization as well as different martial arts styles. these past few years i haven't done much in that, because of life, family, work, and so on and so forth. i like to play with other folks ego. it's sort of an aikido practice in the spiritual sense. we talked quite a bit about spiritual, but we don't often put it to the test. play with other folks ego put your spiritual to the test or a training of sort. of course, if folks won't let go of my eggo i will employ my One Thousand Years of Death technique.