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Old 01-17-2005, 07:11 PM   #43
Dojo: Roppongi Yoshinkan Aikido / Roppongi, Tokyo, Japan
Location: Tokyo
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 571
Re: Locking/pinning as pain submission...

Stuart Norton wrote:
"The holds and pins of Aikido are always applied towards the natural bend of the joint..."

Ok, now I'm confused.
Where are hiji ate kokyu nage or hiji shime applied, if not against the natural motion of the elbow?
Hijishime and Hijiate are (or so I am told) the exceptions in Aikido, since movements on the joints in Aikido usually move with the natural movement of the joint but further or in a slightly different direction than one normally sees them moving.

When I first ran down the list of techniques after being told this I was surprised that they were the only two (as well as the ikkajo pin) which hyperextend the elbow. Everything else works with the joints in the way they were designed to move (sorta )

Hiriki no yosei 3 - The kihon that makes your head ache instead of your legs
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