Erik Jurrien Knoops wrote:
For what it is worth. I have been told by several students of o'sensei that he never used the terms omote and ura but simply reffered to them as #1 and #2. Of course it is possible that I missunderstood them completely.
If you train with John Stevens Sensei, who was a student of Shirata Sensei, you get the numbering system as you describe.