Well that does it - I'm starting another thread.
Also back on topic.
Do you see training as essentially teacher or student driven. Both is an easy answer and therefore not allowed.
I've flip flopped on this quite recently. In the begining I definately believed it was teacher driven - here are the techniques you are supposed to learn. Then it was all about self - self direction, self training. The teacher only there to provide the occaisional nudge it the right direction. Now keeping in mind that I am still firmly in the Shu stage of things I find myself reverting to the initial view. Not so much with respect to techniques that must be learnt but with very careful observation of my teachers. There movements define my direction.