Jim23 I have to say it. You havent got a clue. Saying a block isnt aikido as its using force with force. Never seen the blocls we irimi. It seems to me your understanding of aikido is very very minimal by your comments, but still yo act like you know all about it. I wish you would, stop writing rubbish on this forum as nothing is gained. And no one ever listens to you, or gains anything from what you have to say. Go train in a good hard school of aikido, and then come and contribute something. The other non aiki people on this forum i have always respected for what they have to contribute, but I dont fell the same way about you.