I started aikido to do weapons work, then I realised I preferred the unarmed technique, then I realised that aikido and its associated philosophies has surropticiously changed my attitude towards life. I know this has happened to many people, even though, like myslef, they were not indoctrinated in the spiritual side of aiki in any way. I also think it is wrong to try to persuade people to follow your beliefs if they are not interested. However, what I would like to know is; has anyone been practising for a reasonable length of time (e.g. over 1 -1 1/2 tears) and not been influenced by the philosophical aspects?