Erik, it was not my intention to give advice for people who are overweight. It was an analogy intended to get my point across. Much as I would like to debate over your challenges to my dietry points, this forum is for aikido, not weight-loss.
Gray, if you are still out there. My points pertained to Aikido not diet, although, I was working from a slightly different angle than Jun's original question. I'll make them cleaner.
1. People do what they perceive to have benefit for them.
2. They do this consciously or unconsciously.
3. People won't do Aikido if they don't enjoy it or derive value from it in some form.
4. This may not be a logical process.
In other words, giving up smoking provides the probable benefit of a longer life. For me that is a benefit. Someone else may not perceive a longer life as a benefit. Their perception is just as correct as mine.
[Edited by Erik on January 28, 2001 at 02:31pm]