my point is that testing, as it is in Aikido, where progress is not measured "objectively" in trial by competition , allows people who are not "warrior material" to practice a physical discipline where they do in fact get to progress in that direction. Their ranks might not be meaningful to others, but to them they are proof of their effort and recognition for their prpgress, in the eyes of people who have been with them along that progression.
On the other hand, maybe there should be a right to engage in competitive training without risking being labeled a heretic or a bad influence, or just plain smelly
It seems to me Ron, that the situation that exists already favors the first group.
What if there were formal competition aikido ..but for yudansha only?