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Old 04-08-2003, 03:12 AM   #63
Dojo: Kiburn, London, UK
Location: London
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 899
United Kingdom
Kevin, you quoted the

"remember: guns don't kill people, people do.

the weapon itself is not violent, it is the person using it."

Absolutely, totally agree. But, a frying pan isn't normally a weapon (except in the hands of a bad cook), but can still kill. So while a weapon itself is not violent, it's sole purpose is violence. In a similar way, any untrained person can peform violence, it's not exactly difficult to be violent after all. However, you've decided train in a martial art which is, philosophy aside, dedicated to efficient violence.

Ward, I agree, we're just not going to see eye-to-eye on this. I think I'm, going to have to leave you continuing in your spiritual growth while I continue to devolve - ho hum. Mind, you're still wrong!
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