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Ivan Labushevskiy wrote:
2Setok,
both are ura by classification 'go in front' or 'go rear' if you ask me.
Regarding classification of other arts, it's not related to position against uke. That's why I wonder why it's exactly like that in Aikido however isn't inherited from roots.
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Look again. Specifically after nage goes under the arm of uke. Follow the direction of the throw: it is executed in the direction uke is looking towards (forwards). To use Tissier as an example, here is kaitennage ura:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UTulCYqKp0
Note how, after the moment where he goes under the arm, he ends up stepping to the rear of uke, and executes the throw 180° from the direction uke is looking at. He turns uke 180° by going behind uke before throwing, hence it being the ura version.
I have experienced the exact same logic in Daito Ryu (the 'behind' version and the 'to front' version), so I don't think aikido differs in that respect.