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Old 06-06-2014, 04:01 PM   #13
hughrbeyer
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Re: Adapted Training

Mind you, I said "in Aikido." If you want to crank on joints and move uke around with pain compliance, that's jujitsu. Which is a good and righteous thing in itself, but not Aikido.

Wrist grabs in Aikido are generally just for training--a simple, direct challenge that gives nage the opportunity to work on his stuff. You push to give nage something to work with. Wrist grabs in reality are usually about controlling a weapon. They can also be used to control your opponent if you know your stuff--and if your stuff is Aikido, you won't be pushing or pulling to do it.

The point Janet raises is a good one. The problem most of us have is that since we can get away with doing things the stupid way (pushing, pulling, evading) we can fail to get past that. Loss of that function can be a gift to your training, if you're training the right things.

Edit: Forgot... just to be cantankerous and direct, nikko requires no particularly hard grip on nage's side. Nor does kotegaishi. Nor does yonkyo, unless you're committed to dancing on the nerve point, which is fun, but not required for the takedown. Sankyo... I'll get back to you on sankyo.

Edit again (It's Magic Hat's fault today): Consider how much of a grab you really need, even in katate-tori. Squeezing the wrist isn't the point. Connection to center is the point.

Last edited by hughrbeyer : 06-06-2014 at 04:08 PM.

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