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Old 07-28-2013, 05:47 PM   #50
Michael Varin
Dojo: Aikido of Fresno
Join Date: May 2005
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Re: Aikido's Attacks -- Reality and Effectiveness

John Powell wrote: View Post
Quite! I take it that your meaning is (may be) that uke's original intent to attack does not cease until such time as he is rendered unmoving? Submission, pin & lock, unconscious or just broken?

I would agree that, once students get to a certain point, then free-flow practice should involve the consistently attacking uke, who does not stop at the first foiling off-balance kuzushi touch, but reorients and keeps on coming, trying to keep things going until tori/nage deals with it to onclusion.

If that's not what you meant, then I'm lost.
No. You're pretty right on, John.

I wasn't totally comfortable with the term "counter attacking" because to me that is not exactly the role uke is ever embodying. In that sense uke is purely offensive and nage is the counter "fighter." But uke must continually attack nage and if nage's response become offensive or readable than uke should counter.

"Through aiki we can feel the mind of the enemy who comes to attack and are thus able to respond immediately." - M. Mochizuki
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