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Old 01-05-2013, 11:34 AM   #8
RonRagusa
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Re: Shiro Omiya Shihan on "Aiki"

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Christopher Li wrote: View Post
1) You're conflating a much earlier film with an interview done more than 20 years later in a different context. Nothing wrong with evading, but that doesn't mean that it's the same thing that he's talking about 20 years later in a different context. This is very different than if he had made a specific video demonstration in the context of the interview.
2) You're ignoring Greg and Carsten's comments on the subject.
3) You're ignoring a large body of discussion by Morihei Ueshiba in which he talks about "Aiki" in context in favor of a single out of context comment in an interview meant for popular consumption.

Best,

Chris
Chris, you can look at any of Ueshiba's clips on Youtube regardless of the era and see the same thing. He demonstrates a clear pattern in his movements that fully support the statement, regardless of how you choose to interpret his words. I chose the 1935 video precisely because he is doing prewar Aikido and in fact it looks pretty much the same as what Mark Murray refers to Modern Aikido.

Examples:

First, lots of leading, blending and very little overt control:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxxb2ctulEs

Here's one where he demonstrates a more power oriented Aiki:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoDK3XuvZWw

This one contains both aspects of Aiki:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkRbVdmTmIA

You seem to be of the opinion that what I call two sides of the same Aiki coin cannot both be Aiki, or composite parts of the totality of Aiki. I don't see it that way and based on what I can see Ueshiba doing and reading from what you say is a pretty straightforward translation of his own words, I don't think he did either.

Ron

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