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Old 10-30-2012, 03:42 PM   #35
Chris Li
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Re: Ueshiba the monomaniac?

Cliff Judge wrote: View Post
Well I submit that Ueshiba, at least, did not see any difference between his internal training and his spiritual pursuits, they were one and the same to him. This raises the question as to whether or not Takeda, Kodo, or Sagawa thought of the goals of their solo internal training in terms that we relate to if we reduce the practice to a means to "martial power." I don't think so but there is not enough data there.

With Ueshiba, though, it's pretty clear, isn't it? "Spiritual pursuits" were what he obsessively spent the last couple decades of his life doing. Or have we all analyzed the text and realized that when it seemed like he was talking about fixing the universe he really just wanted to be able to hold a stick better?
Nobody, except the people not actually involved in the training, has said that internals are all about reducing things to a simple physical practice.

Actually, Ueshiba's view of the unification of his internal training and his spiritual pursuits makes perfect sense to me - you see similar views throughout the history of internal training all the way back to China.

FWIW, I don't really see how you get to the spiritual training at all, practically speaking, without the internals. This blog post may be relevant here.



Last edited by Chris Li : 10-30-2012 at 03:45 PM.

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