No one wants or cares..what the loser...had.
I know not all of us consider ourselves as praciticing Japanese martial arts, but some people mentioned in this thread do. So I figure it might be appropriate to point out that nothing makes the Japanese more misty-eyed than a good loser. In point of fact, traditions that derive gravitas from the Kashima shrine often hearken back to Yoshitsune himself, perhaps the hunkiest, most awesome loser in all of Japanese history. He is said to have been trained by a Tengu on mount Kurama. This was before he was so instrumental in helping his brother win the big war between the Minamoto and the Taira that his brother had him dealt with. So he was definitely a loser and yet is considered one of the patron saints of martial arts.