Sorry Chris(steady tangent),
So do you feel that what Saito did in Iwama and what kuroiwa was doing at Hombu different? Kata garuma, koshinage...apples and oranges, or grannysmith, macintosh? I see in the Noma link what you mean, kata garuma, DR yes. Maybe I am just hung up on terminology, like aikinage, kokyunage. Thanks. :0)
In terms of the outer technical application - yes. In terms of what's happening in the internals - well, that's what everybody argues about, right?