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Old 07-07-2012, 07:55 PM   #32
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Re: Vetting Our Skills

Aikido has techniques which sieze the initiative - omote irimi is probably the best example but yes even that technique requires an innate understanding of your opponents energy.

With respect to your question about Shodokan. Tanto randori does have a designated attacker - hence the tanto. From a philosophical point of view is that any different from uke who must attack. I will say that toshu randori (where both are unarmed and trying to execute technique) is quite a bit harder to do and very easy to fall into the trap of doing nothing. Judo - which is also a defensive art - has the same problem.

Philip Zeplin-Frederiksen wrote: View Post
It seems to me, as a complete newb, that you don't really want to study Aikido? The entire (well, practically) system is based upon pure defence, made possible with the force delivered by the attacker (uke).
Now, personally I agree that sometimes the best defence is a solid offence, but that's not Aikido. That's not to say that you can't train for that - by cross-training, that's perfectly possible - but it isn't the Aikido system, right? The very notion that you say you should be effective, when your assailant tries to run away, shows that you don't particularly like the system that Aikido is based on (which would be to never attack, but to efficiently defend).

I would say, instead of trying to change Aikido, take what you can from it, and do cross-training to fill in the blanks of what you feel is lacking.

With everything else - I agree that cross-training is good (in all martial arts), and that some amount of resistance should be put on all parties during training.

I might add that this is why I don't understand how Shodokan / Tomiki competitions work... surely, if all parties practised Aikido as it was designed to be used, each round would be 5 minutes of students standing around starring at each other, waiting for someone silly enough to attack.

Peter Rehse Shodokan Aikido
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