Thanks for the reply Tony, but not sure i follow
However, i have not observed anyone who trains this way with hard solid grabs as O'Sensei stated.
If there are dojos out there that do, i would be interested to hear about them.
We did..... Unfortunately not many want to do our type of aikido anymore. I don't have a dojo at present, but once I can get it up and running you are welcome to come.
I believe that Henry Ellis Sensei's ESTA group train in much the same sort of manner, You could certainly pay them a visit..... I'm sure you would be most welcome.....