"There's nothing here but men, men men men..."
The completion is left as an exercise for the student.
Not really Mary
If you meant "Men men men men men" as in the song....
This stuff is more cut and dry to me, and I suspect Tony as well. Not so much a chest beating contest as just a debate over real practical application. SInce Tony sees it as some woo woo thing when It is just a better way to do Martial arts to me.
All the best