im sorry, i dont understand either of these statements and im not sure how they address what ive said...
You offered two possible paradigms:
#1: Customer - vendor, with the customer expecting to simply receive the product with minimal effort on their part.
#2: Master - student, with the student expected to humble themselves in the hope that the master will deign to teach them.
I am proposing a third paradigm, in which teacher and student are social equals, but the student understands that learning requires his active participation, for both his own sake and the group's. And I offered a football team or a writer's workshop as examples of that paradigm that lie outside the feudal baggage that you saw as entangled with the traditional master-student relationship.