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Old 06-23-2010, 03:57 PM   #94
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Re: Ki Aikido - quote from Gleason Sensei

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Dan Harden wrote: View Post
At some point people are going to realize that this training is the fast ticket to senior level in any aiki based art. If they practice it correctly they will be the 400 lb. gorilla in the room with almost no effort involved. It really isnlt a case of being a jerk. Its a case of almost having to totaly shut off for what they are trying to do to work. At a point Aiki age or kokyu ho or any throw is just not ever going to work on you anymore. Most attempts at kuzushi end up with them kuzushiing themselves. Trouble is, where do you fit-in at that point. Again, its why I thought it best to teach teachers; at least they can set the agenda and let it be practiced. A junior would either get frustrated and leave or get tossed out after being tagged as "uncooperative" for just standing there.

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Dan
Dan,

From an aikido perspective, isn't shutting it off or dialing it down part of the package that is aikido? Isn't it likely that this was what Ueshiba was expecting from his training method? If you're just standing there shutting someone down, you pretty much are just being a jerk. Isn't the point to resist just enough that they can feel what they need to feel and in turn you can feel what you need to feel from them to know they're on the right track. As everyone progresses, the level of resistance and the lengths one takes that resistance increases. If you have other (or just one other) like minded people in your dojo, from an aikido standpoint, you've probably got everything you need to have a happy and steady progression towards some real skills all in a completely aikido-centric way.

As for the teaching teachers thing. I'm sure everyone tells you that they're going to start incorporating this stuff, but for the people who are part of large organizations, mainly the aikikai, have you found this to actually be true? How many of these shodans and shihans are actually taking the risk of running afoul of the mothership, which could cost them recognized rank, affiliation (very important for many), etc, for this ? On some level doesn't instructing the lower ranks, the ones who will be the next generation of teachers, offer the best chance of success for reintegration of these training methods? Thanks.
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