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Old 05-06-2010, 07:28 AM   #32
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Re: Yoshinkan and "aiki"

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Chris Hein wrote: View Post
Heres the part you left off; didn't read?
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Seems that Shioda is saying that both are simply components of Aiki, that both are just parts and neither is the whole enchilada.
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Mark Murray wrote:
Shuchu Ryoku, and Kokyu Ryoku are sub components of aiki.
I don't understand how that's opposed to what I said.

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Chris Hein wrote: View Post
From reading Shioda, he calls what I said was Aiki, Kokyu-ryoku.
Might just be me misreading what you posted... But, you wrote that you thought Shioda's Kokyu-ryoku= your view of aiki. I took your post that your view was
Kokyu-ryoku=aiki
and that Kokyu-ryoku/aiki=Chushin Ryoku + Shuchu Ryoku.

While my view is
aiki = Chushin Ryoku + Shuchu Ryoku + Kokyu Ryoku + opposite body + spirals + etc.

Quite a difference there.

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Chris Hein wrote: View Post
How are you using the word internal? What do you mean by it?
That's where we (Aikiweb Community) have gone round and round about aiki and internal. We (both sides) have even tried to use video. I think at this point, the IHTBF applies. One other option is that if you (Aikiweb Community) can't get hands-on, then perhaps someone you know has done so?

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Chris Hein wrote: View Post
I don't understand how that's opposed to what I said.
Hopefully, I clarified things.
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