Who among O Sensei's students are powerful ?How about Chiba Sensei, Saito Sensei, Kanai Sensei ,Tamura Sensei to name a few?
They do not posses the type of power being discussed here. Chiba and Kannai-were conspicuously devoid of this type of skill when I trained with them many years ago and have no place in the discussion. I'm not discussing their Aikido waza- I'm talking about something different.
The only way I can discuss it with you is for you to go train with someone who has it so we have a common reference point.