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Old 01-25-2010, 07:30 PM   #7
Erick Mead
 
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Re: Where Did Ueshiba Morihei's Training Go?

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There are some aspects of Ueshiba that seem to have disappeared in the aikido world.

1. One hand up, pointing upwards with one hand down, pointing downwards. (No reference thread) ... And yet, in modern aikido, it has disappeared.

Why? What happened? Where did this aspect of Ueshiba's training go?
Check. Got it.

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2. Push tests.
Reference Thread:
http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14991

In many accounts, Ueshiba was tested through push tests. Whether standing, in seiza, or sitting, people could not push him over.
Debatable -- buuut.... -- Kokyu tanden ho -- how is this NOT a "push test"? I call it "check" -- and any disputes are stylistic.

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3. Weapons.
Reference thread:
http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15054
Weapons, though, "seem" to have propagated into the modern aikido world. I put quotes around "seem" because most kendo people do not study aikido for its "taisabaki". Top kendo people do not credit modern aikido people for their skills.
Kendo? Boxing with glorified hashi ?

But, weapons? Roger. Check. Got it.

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4. Timeframe.
Reference thread:
http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14753

Why did it take so few years for the "Aikido Greats" to get very good?
Because they had nothing better to do? Literally, we have COMPLETELY lost the sense of the infinite distractions we are heir to, that our forebears could not possibly imagine. And .. ummmm.. post-war JAPAN?? -- not a big place for, um, idle pastimes...or idle anything, for that matter.

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5. Testing.
Reference thread:
http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15035

All manner of men tested Ueshiba. "Competition" for Ueshiba seems to have only meant the type used in Olympics, UFC, etc. IMO, "competition" never meant one couldn't handle a challenger. The type of "competition" that spurs one to do better was not looked down upon. Ueshiba was no pacifist.
Laws on mutual combat and excessive or unreasonable force are not terribly friendly in this regard -- and subject to curious after-the-fact recasting -- by losers -- and with the rules that modern laws typically require -- well, do the math...

Cordially,

Erick Mead
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