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Old 07-13-2002, 04:04 PM   #25
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Re: Ba Gua (Pa Kua), Oshikiuchi, Aiki-in-yo-ho???

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L. Camejo wrote:
Nice argument, but I don't buy it. There is very little of a technical nature in Aikido that isn't also present in Daito-ryu, including all the things that he mentioned. I'm still fairly sure that Sokaku Takeda didn't spend much time in China.

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Then check out

http://www.shenwu.com/bg4tchnq.htm Koshi nage or sukui nage????
Koshi nage is even more common in Judo - did Jigoro Kano spend time in China studying Ba Gua too?

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Then there is Donn Dreager's book on Budo and Bujutsu (Vol.2 I think) that speaks about Oshikiuchi, the forerunner of Daito Ryu Aikjujutsu and it's philosophy of Aiki in-yo ho (Harmony of energy based on yin/yang) which came directly from Chinese Taoism.
There's really no agreement on what Oshikiuchi actually was, and there seems to be some strength to the argument that it was a system of formal etiquette. In any case "in-yo" is a common concept in Japan. Yes, it has its roots in China, as do Kanji and many other things Japanese. That doesn't mean that M. Ueshiba studied Ba Gua.

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Chris

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