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Old 07-29-2009, 12:08 PM   #4
joacir
Dojo: Yama Dojo - Brazil Aikikai
Location: Manaus
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 17
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Re: Aikido Scam by an Indian group

They contact-me too. I asked informations about their Shihan and they answered to me that were a beggining group. I said that not could help them without a recomendation letter from a Shihan Knowed, so, they give up. See some e-mails from the"m:

Respected sir/madam
with due respect hello, first of all i would like to introduce my self my name is DALBIR SINGH I’m belongs to Indian Aikido team i had participated in many national Aikido tournaments & training camps
in following countries : AUSTRALIA ,CUBA , U.K ,U.S.A , CANADA , JAPAN , GERMANY , FRANCE , ITALY , RUSSIA , AUSTRIA , etc.i have a
good Aikido academy here in new Delhi we have a good talented playerss. male or females this time we would like to come there in your club for 10 days training with some of your Players or if you have an international Aikido tournament or seminar
so we would also like to participate there & we have also needs a accommodation also we can pay for so if there is any possibility then
let me know about that. Please do invite our academy
I’m hoping for your fastest & favorable response

thanking you Indian Aikido


Joacir Junior para Indian, bcc: Wagner
mostrar detalhes 30 mai Responder

Dear Mr. Dalbir,

I would like to undertand what is exactly tournaments and players for you. For me(my english is poor), is a championship, and we don't participate of championship. We training a very traditional Aikido following our Shihan, the Mr. Wagner Bull.

Do you have some site at Internet about your group and you follow some Shihan?

Best regards,
Joacir Marques

2009/5/30 Indian Aikido <indianaikidoteam@yahoo.in>

Dear sir,
Hello, thank you for your reply we would like to arrive there 18th morning & will depart from there 22nd of june.
but we need invitation letter with some needfull documents from your club for our team visa.
please reply to me in this we have also send this mail to your coach.
thanking you INDIAN TEAM

--- On Sat, 30/5/09, Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com> wrote:

Date: Saturday, 30 May, 2009, 1:34 PM

Hello Mr. Dalbir,

When you arrive in Manaus? Please, I Would appreciate that you speak with my sensei Wagner Bull, our shihan, about trainning in Manaus for ten days. His e-mail is wagner.bull@aikikai.org.br. Our Seminar is open!

Best Regards,
Joacir

2009/5/30 Indian Aikido <indianaikidoteam@yahoo.in>

Respected sir/madam
with due respect hello, first of all i would like to introduce my self my name is DALBIR SINGH I’m belongs to Indian Aikido team i had participated in many national Aikido tournaments & training camps
in following countries : AUSTRALIA ,CUBA , U.K ,U.S.A , CANADA , JAPAN , GERMANY , FRANCE , ITALY , RUSSIA , AUSTRIA , etc.i have a
good Aikido academy here in new Delhi we have a good talented playerss. male or females this time we would like to come there in your club for 10 days training with some of your Players or if you have an international Aikido tournament or seminar
so we would also like to participate there & we have also needs a accommodation also we can pay for so if there is any possibility then
let me know about that. Please do invite our academy
I’m hoping for your fastest & favorable response

thanking you Indian Aikido

Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now!

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Joacir Marques,
Yama Dojo - Brazil Aikikai
Filiado à Confederação Brasileira de Aikido - Brazil Aikikai
Site: http://www.yamadojo.org

Dear sir,
hello thank you for reply we just want to partcipate there in your Bull Shihan 6th Dan Aikikai .
we dont have any web site because we are new in aikido
thanking you Indian team




Well, Sir, if you just want to participate in the event, you are welcome. Just came on 18th june 2009 and you can do your inscription when you arrive. The investment is 60 american dolars.

We haven't accommodation but I can indicate for you some good hotels in Manaus.

Best Regards

2009/5/31 Indian Aikido <indianaikidoteam@yahoo.in>
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Dear sir,
hello thank you for reply we just want to partcipate there in your Bull Shihan 6th Dan Aikikai .
we dont have any web site because we are new in aikido
thanking you Indian team

--- On Sun, 31/5/09, Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com>
To: "Indian Aikido" <indianaikidoteam@yahoo.in>

Date: Sunday, 31 May, 2009, 12:17 AM

Dear Mr. Dalbir,

I would like to undertand what is exactly tournaments and players for you. For me(my english is poor), is a championship, and we don't participate of championship. We training a very traditional Aikido following our Shihan, the Mr. Wagner Bull.

Do you have some site at Internet about your group and you follow some Shihan?

Best regards,
Joacir Marques

2009/5/30 Indian Aikido <indianaikidoteam@yahoo.in>

Dear sir,
Hello, thank you for your reply we would like to arrive there 18th morning & will depart from there 22nd of june.
but we need invitation letter with some needfull documents from your club for our team visa.
please reply to me in this we have also send this mail to your coach.
thanking you INDIAN TEAM

--- On Sat, 30/5/09, Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Jun 19-20, 2009: Bull Shihan 6th Dan Aikikai in Manaus, Brazil
To: "Indian Aikido" <indianaikidoteam@yahoo..in>
Date: Saturday, 30 May, 2009, 1:34 PM

Hello Mr. Dalbir,

When you arrive in Manaus? Please, I Would appreciate that you speak with my sensei Wagner Bull, our shihan, about trainning in Manaus for ten days. His e-mail is wagner.bull@aikikai.org.br. Our Seminar is open!

Best Regards,
Joacir

2009/5/30 Indian Aikido <indianaikidoteam@yahoo.in>

Respected sir,

Hello, thank you for your reply our players assure really very happy to received your invitation letter thank for that.
As you must be known for there come we have to apply our team visa at the Brazil Embassy New Delhi India.

The embassy wants some require documents from the organizers which is

1. Complete invitation letter on your official letter head with our player’s details.

2. Confirmation of our team’s accommodation during our stay there we will pay for this on our arrival.

3. Letter from your ministry of sports or your immigration department

All these letter should be reach to the both our association by post & Brazil embassy New Delhi India by fax.
Then we can go there to apply our team visa to come there we hope you can arrange all these letters for our team

Thanking you Indian Team

Joacir Junior para Indian, bcc: DIRETOR, bcc: Sempai
mostrar detalhes 1 jun Responder

Dear Sir,

really I would like help you with everything but is very hard for me get from ministry of sports or immigration department a letter for you. I don't know and I haven't time to discovery that now. I'll do my shodan test in this seminary and I'll travel to São Paulo for my trainning in next days. The seminar is organized and I would very happy that you could come and subscribe in our seminar, but I can't help you with all you need. I hope you can come.

Best Regards,
Joacir Marques
- Mostrar texto das mensagens anteriores -

2009/5/31 Indian Aikido <indianaikidoteam@yahoo.in>

Respected sir,

Hello, thank you for your reply our players assure really very happy to received your invitation letter thank for that.
As you must be known for there come we have to apply our team visa at the Brazil Embassy New Delhi India.

The embassy wants some require documents from the organizers which is

1. Complete invitation letter on your official letter head with our player’s details.

2. Confirmation of our team’s accommodation during our stay there we will pay for this on our arrival.

3. Letter from your ministry of sports or your immigration department

All these letter should be reach to the both our association by post & Brazil embassy New Delhi India by fax.
Then we can go there to apply our team visa to come there we hope you can arrange all these letters for our team

Thanking you Indian Team

--- On Sun, 31/5/09, Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Jun 19-20, 2009: Bull Shihan 6th Dan Aikikai in Manaus, Brazil
To: "Indian Aikido" <indianaikidoteam@yahoo.in>

Date: Sunday, 31 May, 2009, 10:07 PM

Well, Sir, if you just want to participate in the event, you are welcome. Just came on 18th june 2009 and you can do your inscription when you arrive. The investment is 60 american dolars.

We haven't accommodation but I can indicate for you some good hotels in Manaus.

Best Regards

2009/5/31 Indian Aikido <indianaikidoteam@yahoo.in>

Dear sir,
hello thank you for reply we just want to partcipate there in your Bull Shihan 6th Dan Aikikai .
we dont have any web site because we are new in aikido
thanking you Indian team

--- On Sun, 31/5/09, Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Jun 19-20, 2009: Bull Shihan 6th Dan Aikikai in Manaus, Brazil
To: "Indian Aikido" <indianaikidoteam@yahoo.in>

Date: Sunday, 31 May, 2009, 12:17 AM

Dear Mr. Dalbir,

I would like to undertand what is exactly tournaments and players for you. For me(my english is poor), is a championship, and we don't participate of championship. We training a very traditional Aikido following our Shihan, the Mr. Wagner Bull.

Do you have some site at Internet about your group and you follow some Shihan?

Best regards,
Joacir Marques

2009/5/30 Indian Aikido <indianaikidoteam@yahoo.in>

Dear sir,
Hello, thank you for your reply we would like to arrive there 18th morning & will depart from there 22nd of june.
but we need invitation letter with some needfull documents from your club for our team visa.
please reply to me in this we have also send this mail to your coach.
thanking you INDIAN TEAM

--- On Sat, 30/5/09, Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Jun 19-20, 2009: Bull Shihan 6th Dan Aikikai in Manaus, Brazil
To: "Indian Aikido" <indianaikidoteam@yahoo..in>
Cc: "Wagner Bull" <wagner.bull@aikikai.org.br>
Date: Saturday, 30 May, 2009, 1:34 PM

Hello Mr. Dalbir,

When you arrive in Manaus? Please, I Would appreciate that you speak with my sensei Wagner Bull, our shihan, about trainning in Manaus for ten days. His e-mail is wagner.bull@aikikai.org.br. Our Seminar is open!

Best Regards,
Joacir

|Indian Aikido para mim
mostrar detalhes 1 jun Responder

Dear sir,

Hello and thank you for your reply i understand it is not so easy to get all these leter but without invitation & confirmation of our teams accomondation during our stay there we are not even eligble to apply our visa at Brazilian embassy new delhi .
so if you can arrenge letter from your aikido federation or any goverment association so we can participate there
we hope you can arrenge these letters for us
thanking you Indian team

Dear Mr. Dalbir,

I can do a reservation for you at a hotel in Manaus and send you a confirmation of reserve by e-mail from Hotel. I will try get a letter from my federation for you, but Idon't know if I 'll achieve it.

Dou you have a association related with a Shihan from Aikikai? I need more information from your group.

Thanks!

Best regards,
Joacir

--- On Sun, 31/5/09, Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Jun 19-20, 2009: Bull Shihan 6th Dan Aikikai in Manaus, Brazil
To: "Indian Aikido" <indianaikidoteam@yahoo.in>

Date: Sunday, 31 May, 2009, 10:07 PM

Well, Sir, if you just want to participate in the event, you are welcome. Just came on 18th june 2009 and you can do your inscription when you arrive. The investment is 60 american dolars.

We haven't accommodation but I can indicate for you some good hotels in Manaus.

Best Regards

2009/5/31 Indian Aikido <indianaikidoteam@yahoo.in>

Dear sir,
hello thank you for reply we just want to partcipate there in your Bull Shihan 6th Dan Aikikai .
we dont have any web site because we are new in aikido
thanking you Indian team

--- On Sun, 31/5/09, Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Jun 19-20, 2009: Bull Shihan 6th Dan Aikikai in Manaus, Brazil
To: "Indian Aikido" <indianaikidoteam@yahoo.in>

Date: Sunday, 31 May, 2009, 12:17 AM

Dear Mr. Dalbir,

I would like to undertand what is exactly tournaments and players for you. For me(my english is poor), is a championship, and we don't participate of championship. We training a very traditional Aikido following our Shihan, the Mr.. Wagner Bull.

Do you have some site at Internet about your group and you follow some Shihan?

Best regards,
Joacir Marques

2009/5/30 Indian Aikido <indianaikidoteam@yahoo.in>

Dear sir,
Hello, thank you for your reply we would like to arrive there 18th morning & will depart from there 22nd of june.
but we need invitation letter with some needfull documents from your club for our team visa.
please reply to me in this we have also send this mail to your coach.
thanking you INDIAN TEAM

--- On Sat, 30/5/09, Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Joacir Junior <joacirjunior@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Jun 19-20, 2009: Bull Shihan 6th Dan Aikikai in Manaus, Brazil
To: "Indian Aikido" <indianaikidoteam@yahoo..in>
Cc: "Wagner Bull" <wagner.bull@aikikai.org.br>
Date: Saturday, 30 May, 2009, 1:34 PM

Hello Mr. Dalbir,

When you arrive in Manaus? Please, I Would appreciate that you speak with my sensei Wagner Bull, our shihan, about trainning in Manaus for ten days. His e-mail is wagner.bull@aikikai.org.br. Our Seminar is open!

Best Regards,
Joacir

2009/5/30 Indian Aikido <indianaikidoteam@yahoo.in>

Respected sir/madam

with due respect hello, first of all i would like to introduce my self my name is DALBIR SINGH I’m belongs to Indian Aikido team i had participated in many national Aikido tournaments & training camps
in following countries : AUSTRALIA ,CUBA , U.K ,U.S.A , CANADA , JAPAN , GERMANY , FRANCE , ITALY , RUSSIA , AUSTRIA , etc.i have a
good Aikido academy here in new Delhi we have a good talented playerss. male or females this time we would like to come there in your club for 10 days training with some of your Players or if you have an international Aikido tournament or seminar
so we would also like to participate there & we have also needs a accommodation also we can pay for so if there is any possibility then
let me know about that. Please do invite our academy
I’m hoping for your fastest & favorable response

thanking you Indian Aikido

Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now!

--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joacir Marques,
Yama Dojo - Brazil Aikikai
Filiado à Confederação Brasileira de Aikido - Brazil Aikikai
Site: http://www.yamadojo.org
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Aikido, uma filosofia de vida"

Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now!

--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joacir Marques,
Yama Dojo - Brazil Aikikai
Filiado à Confederação Brasileira de Aikido - Brazil Aikikai
Site: http://www.yamadojo.org
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Aikido, uma filosofia de vida"

Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now!

--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joacir Marques,
Yama Dojo - Brazil Aikikai
Filiado à Confederação Brasileira de Aikido - Brazil Aikikai
Site: http://www.yamadojo.org
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Aikido, uma filosofia de vida"

Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now!

--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joacir Marques,
Yama Dojo - Brazil Aikikai
Filiado à Confederação Brasileira de Aikido - Brazil Aikikai
Site: http://www.yamadojo.org
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Aikido, uma filosofia de vida"

Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now!
- Mostrar texto das mensagens anteriores -

--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joacir Marques,
Yama Dojo - Brazil Aikikai
Filiado à Confederação Brasileira de Aikido - Brazil Aikikai
Site: http://www.yamadojo.org
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Aikido, uma filosofia de vida"

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|Indian Aikido para mim
mostrar detalhes 1 jun Responder

Dear sir,
hello and thank you we have a martial arts academy here in india which is registerd with indian goverment .if you want to so i can send you some picture of my & my sensai i ,am a judo player amd my sensai is 3 rd dan in taelwondo & karate
thanking you Indian team

Joacir Junior para Indian
mostrar detalhes 1 jun Responder

Nothing about Aikido?

Joacir Junior para Indian
mostrar detalhes 2 jun Responder

Dear Sir:

I am sorry we can not help you with those burocratic problems.
We are just a dojo of Aikido and will accept inscriptions of those interested and that will present in the opportunity, but only Aikidokas.

Really, I haven't how help you. If you really like Aikido, I suggest you find a good Shihan from Aikikai and train below him.

Best Regards,
Joacir

Indian Aikido para mim
mostrar detalhes 2 jun Responder

Dear sir,
thank you for yur kind support with us
india

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