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Old 07-13-2009, 09:48 AM   #71
JimCooper
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Re: The Challenge of Not Competing

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Mark Murray wrote: View Post
No matter how you look at the training, whether from beginning to end, sports has one end goal -- winning or losing.

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No matter how you look at the training, whether from beginning to end, martial arts has one end goal -- how to live your life.
You keep saying these things, but neither one is true. Sport does have more to it than that. You personally may not have experienced it, but that doesn't make it any less true.

Martial arts pay a lot of lip service (some don't even bother with that) to your supposed "one end goal", but it doesn't actually happen a whole lot, IME. And there is more to a MA than that one thing, too.

But in neither is any sort of character building going to happen automatically. It all depends on how you're taught. Professional sports people may or may not provide a good role model, ditto for martial artists - they're just less high profile. I could name some high grades who are pretty poor in that regard, as I'm sure we all could.

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Mark Murray wrote: View Post
Didn't understand the nature of true sports or sportsmanship?
The old masters had some different thoughts on the subject. Kano thought it was a good idea, Ueshiba didn't. AFAIK, Kano had some exposure to sport (and was a big supporter of the Olympics), Ueshiba didn't (dunno about the Olympics, but he was pretty racist up until WW2). Nobody's perfect :-)
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