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Perhaps, I didn't explain that enough.
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You did, I just have a different opinion. I really do mean they attempted to build his character, and not just so he would follow orders. Mind you, this was officer training in a very small Navy, so it was probably different to your experience.
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Well, from the overall picture of sports to the detailed distinct reason of sports, it's different than martial arts.
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Well, yes and no. Some MAs have drifted into being sports, really. And of course there is a difference between a MA and a sport, but that's to miss the point.
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Overall picture of sports includes being a part of a team that competes in front of an audience.
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Well, sometimes. There are non-team sports, and I very rarely had an audience when I played sport :-) I'm **not** talking mainly about professional sport, but that which nearly 100% of people playing sport play. (Although I have met a few top class sportspeople - representatives of their countries - and they have been the nicest people, very positive, always seeing problems as challenges to be overcome)
Of course there will always be overly-competitive people who are a PITA, both in sport and in a dojo.
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And that's not always a good thing:
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Ditto for martial arts. This is why people used to be screened before they were taught. You can learn a MA purely to be a more effective thug.
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When is the last time that you saw an aikido training session break out in riots?
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I've never played in any game that broke out in riots.
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How about why you're actually playing that sport? What's the end goal? Isn't there always some trophy or award? There are always winners and losers. Someone always defeats someone else.
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Well, no. There are draws and ties as well (they're actually different things in cricket).
I think this is the crux of the problem. If you were taught to play sport purely in order to win, then you were taught badly, and you've missed out on a great deal.
The point of sport is to **strive** to win.
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And how many sport fights have their been by team players?
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How many wars have been fought by martial artists?
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There is no life and death in sport.
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I'm not so sure. Some sports are terrifyingly dangerous. And how much "life and death" is there in a modern dojo?
Like I said, it seems I was taught sport differently than you, and it *should* have many more benefits than you think. I'm sorry that has not been your experience