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Mark Murray wrote:
Actually, I would classify them as higher to lower.
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Then we're always going to disagree on this.
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In the military, you aren't training for the betterment of yourself
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From what my brother tells me, it was an important element in his (non-US) Navy training.
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Now, let's jump to the lowest on the list: sports.
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It was taught to you badly then. My culture is not that of the US, so things may well have been different for me. There is nothing that MAs offer from the POV of character building that cannot potentially be found in sport as well, but team sport offers things that MA cannot.
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I think Chuck Norris is quoted about how the ideal is to be so good that you don't *have* to fight. Might have been someone else, though.
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Yes, it might have been quite a few people quite some time before him :-)
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You won't find that in the military or sports. In fact, it is directly opposed to sports ideals.
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Like I said, if that's the way you think, someone taught you the wrong way to play sport. If that's normal in the US, then that's great shame.