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Old 06-18-2009, 10:43 AM   #37
Rob Watson
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Re: Aiki-Ken vs reality

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Carsten Möllering wrote: View Post
Moin

My aikido teacher is also sensei of the German shibu of TSKSR. It has nearly nothing in common with aikiken.
There is no shomen uchi e.g..

In our weapon practice we do the Inaba offshoot of KSR. It is quite different to aiki ken.
You don't blend with your partner but cut just trough him e.g..

We also do aikiken.
Which was created after aikido already existed.

Greetings
Carsten
The first clip is Kashima Shinryu simply for reference.

The KSR (Kashima Shinryu) you mention is ostensibly the same school but maybe you better double check with Inaba sensei about that.

Aikiken most certainly does have relations with Kashima Shinto Ryu (Shinto Ryu ans Shinryu are different http://www.koryu.com/guide/). I never mentioned TSKSR (which is Katori Shinto Ryu).

Perhaps I was misleading in my comment about seeing commonalities in the KSR clip. I do not mean to imply that aikiken comes from KSR in any way. I mean't that I see several moves that I do and have seen my instructor do in our practice of the aikiken that are seen in that clip . This does not mean anything in particular except the outer form is similar but also no doubt the inner aspects are difficult to discern from video.

Last edited by Rob Watson : 06-18-2009 at 10:48 AM. Reason: Clarification
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