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Old 06-07-2009, 07:19 PM   #15
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Re: Henkawaza

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Alejandro Villanueva wrote: View Post
Let's say that for me (and most probably I'm wrong) henka waza is if applying ikkyo and uke straightens his elbow, I make an adjustment to apply ikkyo with his arm straight. As an aside, I don't understand what's wrong with applying ikkyo to a straight elbow. As a henka (for others it may be the kihon) you can apply hiki otoshi to that straightened arm and it still will be ikkyo / ude osae. Even the final pin will be the same. It will just not be the robuse kind of ikkyo.

Or something...
No you are no necessarily wrong, it is just a matter of vocabulary and where one thinks ikkio stops and where ude or rokkio start.

For me ikkio is an arm lock that involve the arm and the shoulder in a double rotation, Ude a scissor action on the elbow.
Hence I see a change from ikkio to Ude.
Now if you see Ude as version of ikkio then no there is no change.

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