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Old 07-12-2008, 10:08 PM   #8
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Re: Irimi Nage as Kokyu nage?

Bryan Sproles wrote: View Post
Rob: I have noticed that from many techniques, it actually *is* ikkyo that actually takes uke to the ground. We typically did combinations like nikyo -> ikkyo, or sankyo -> ikkyo to bring uke to the mat.
I don't think that's what Rob meant... I think he meant ALL techniques contain the principle of ikkyo... just as they all are based on kokyu (nage)....

One of my favorite techniques is shiho-nage - in the same Aikido book, they call it a "controlling" technique (in the same section with ikkyo, nikyo, sankyo, etc), but I've always considered it to be more of a projection or throw, even though in many cases, tori goes to one knee to finish the "throw".
Funny... I thought shiho nage are shoulder dislocations...

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