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Old 05-01-2002, 11:42 AM   #38
Dojo: Jiyushinkan
Location: Mesa, AZ
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 199
Man, I knew saying that would raise hell...

I am glad that we have so much to talk about. To reiterate what Colleen and others have said: Please don't think that training is not without pain or any injury, but pain and injury is not part of the repertoire we rely on.
I find it humorous that by championing the idea that "purposefully inflicted pain is abuse", that myself, my teachers, and my culture have been judged as wimpy without having a clue to our principles, methods, or ability.

Jim Vance
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