But Mike says that uke is forced...
Correct. Uke is forced to go because of something he initiated. What I was referring to was from a "just beginning" POV. Obviously, if you are better than uke at equalizing yourself, then uke will likely be forced to go as soon as he tries to initiate something. If uke is better, then maybe you will be forced to go. If you are both equally good, then the first one to "lose" it may be forced to go.
If that makes sense?